 The future of Sport Fishing |
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 Mar 9 2010, 03:19 PM
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Golden Trout  Group: Members Posts: 3,386 Joined: 21-October 05 Member No.: 1  |
This was posted on another forum. Something that we should all be aware of right now.
http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwat...tory?id=4975762 |
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Mar 9 2010, 05:00 PM
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 Yellowstone Cutthroat  Group: Site Guide Posts: 1,686 Joined: 27-November 05 From: Helena, Montana Member No.: 54 |
QUOTE (RockTrout @ Mar 9 2010, 08:19 AM)  This was posted on another forum. Something that we should all be aware of right now. http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwat...tory?id=4975762 Has anyone some info on this beyond this piece? This piece reads like a press release from a boating manufacturing organization. It's clearly only representing one side of the issue. http://oceanpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/...ents-vFinal.pdf Letter from the Coalition on spatial planning Based on a cursory glance at the document, and the piece Paul posted, it looks more like access groups trying to maintain their use. In order to make an informed opinion, we'd need to find the opposing side of this and see what science they're using to try and justify shutting down fishing. I'm leary of any organization that makes blanket claims about how far inland these policies could be implemented, and quite frankly, given the Obama administrations reluctance to take on hydropower in the NW, I think a lot of the concern over this administration is overblown. Still, there are some serious concerns raised that bear some research. yrs, mgt. 
-------------------- I've got other scars, on me brain.
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Mar 9 2010, 06:54 PM
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 Colorado River Cutt  Group: Validating Posts: 729 Joined: 22-November 05 From: The Fort, CO Member No.: 47 |
exactly. that's coming from folks that sponsor fishing shows on espn, and of course they will be concerned about the admin's stance on fishing. i'd be interested to see what the public comment was like before it was closed.
-------------------- control for smilers can't be bought. the solar garlic starts to rot. was it for this my life i sought? maybe so. maybe not.
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Mar 9 2010, 07:41 PM
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 Yellowstone Cutthroat Group: Site Guide Posts: 1,446 Joined: 14-December 05 From: Fort Collins, CO Member No.: 73 |
Check Drudge Report, it hit there
-------------------- NO! We no see cat of yours, no more ask please!
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Mar 9 2010, 08:57 PM
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Colorado River Cutt Group: Validating Posts: 729 Joined: 22-November 05 From: The Fort, CO Member No.: 47 |
QUOTE (MarkM @ Mar 9 2010, 12:41 PM) Check Drudge Report, it hit there if it hit drudge, you know it's garbage. -------------------- control for smilers can't be bought. the solar garlic starts to rot. was it for this my life i sought? maybe so. maybe not.
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Mar 9 2010, 10:30 PM
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Golden Trout Group: Members Posts: 3,386 Joined: 21-October 05 Member No.: 1 |
QUOTE (parton @ Mar 9 2010, 01:57 PM) if it hit drudge, you know it's garbage. Perhaps you can provide a more non-partisan article on the issue? |
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Mar 10 2010, 04:05 PM
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Colorado River Cutt Group: Validating Posts: 729 Joined: 22-November 05 From: The Fort, CO Member No.: 47 |
QUOTE (RockTrout @ Mar 9 2010, 03:30 PM) Perhaps you can provide a more non-partisan article on the issue? haven't seen anything other than the article you originally posted. -------------------- control for smilers can't be bought. the solar garlic starts to rot. was it for this my life i sought? maybe so. maybe not.
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Mar 11 2010, 04:10 PM
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 Colorado River Cutt Group: Members Posts: 826 Joined: 2-February 07 From: Butte, America Member No.: 883 |
Here's a few links I found this morning. First one is a writer bashing ESPN for the way they presented the story and the second one is ESPN apologizing. OH, and a picture of the Pres practicing his casting in the White House.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2...hing.html?cat=9 http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwat...&id=4982359  |
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Mar 11 2010, 04:48 PM
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Yellowstone Cutthroat Group: Site Guide Posts: 1,686 Joined: 27-November 05 From: Helena, Montana Member No.: 54 |
Curiouser and curiouser.
-------------------- I've got other scars, on me brain.
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Mar 11 2010, 05:42 PM
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Golden Trout Group: Members Posts: 3,386 Joined: 21-October 05 Member No.: 1 |
More reading.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/documents...orce_FINAL2.pdf or http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/bass-f...shing-us-waters <<< Interesting. Field and Stream has apparently pulled the article? |
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Mar 11 2010, 06:07 PM
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Yellowstone Cutthroat Group: Site Guide Posts: 1,686 Joined: 27-November 05 From: Helena, Montana Member No.: 54 |
Okay, so I glanced over the Whitehouse.gov document and I can see why some folks would be worried. The document clearly places a higher priority on clean water and ecosystem restoration over commercial and recreational activities. I do not, however, find that to be inconsistent with how land planning on public lands should be (and is coming back to being) implemented.
When an activity increases pollution levels, reducing the biodiversity or the ecological character of an ecosystem, then they will take steps necessary to correct that. That means reducing human use in some instances, as well as better regulating non-point source pollution. Funny that they didn't mention asiatic carp in that (that I saw). Those buggers are going to be hell on the Great Lakes Ecosystem. -------------------- I've got other scars, on me brain.
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Mar 11 2010, 10:15 PM
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Yellowstone Cutthroat Group: Site Guide Posts: 1,446 Joined: 14-December 05 From: Fort Collins, CO Member No.: 73 |
So, this is really no different than what Ted Turner and other ultra wealthy land owners do. Cool!
-------------------- NO! We no see cat of yours, no more ask please!
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Mar 11 2010, 11:36 PM
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Yellowstone Cutthroat Group: Site Guide Posts: 1,686 Joined: 27-November 05 From: Helena, Montana Member No.: 54 |
QUOTE (MarkM @ Mar 11 2010, 03:15 PM) So, this is really no different than what Ted Turner and other ultra wealthy land owners do. Cool! Expand on this. -------------------- I've got other scars, on me brain.
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Mar 12 2010, 12:03 AM
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Gila Trout  Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Castle Rock, CO Member No.: 1,943 |
QUOTE (parton @ Mar 9 2010, 01:57 PM) if it hit drudge, you know it's garbage. Yeah that whole Monica Lewinsky thing he broke was a bunch oh baloney wasn't it!!! 
-------------------- "Some go to church and think about fishing, I go fishing and think about God."
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Mar 12 2010, 02:14 AM
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Golden Trout Group: Members Posts: 3,386 Joined: 21-October 05 Member No.: 1 |
Just a blog post, but more thoughts on the subject.
http://fishinghistory.blogspot.com/2010/03...-ask-about.html |
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Mar 12 2010, 01:27 PM
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 Rio Grande Cutt  Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: 12-September 07 From: Federal Heights, Colorado Member No.: 1,341 |
QUOTE (SearchingSolitude @ Mar 11 2010, 05:03 PM) Yeah that whole Monica Lewinsky thing he broke was a bunch oh baloney wasn't it!!! It absolutely was. Especially considering all the starving people in the world at the time that got 0 media coverage. -------------------- Will.
"Quit work, go fly fishing" |
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Mar 12 2010, 03:28 PM
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Colorado River Cutt Group: Validating Posts: 729 Joined: 22-November 05 From: The Fort, CO Member No.: 47 |
QUOTE (SearchingSolitude @ Mar 11 2010, 05:03 PM) Yeah that whole Monica Lewinsky thing he broke was a bunch oh baloney wasn't it!!! sure was.
-------------------- control for smilers can't be bought. the solar garlic starts to rot. was it for this my life i sought? maybe so. maybe not.
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Mar 15 2010, 09:45 AM
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 Westslope Cutthroat  Group: Members Posts: 444 Joined: 29-December 05 Member No.: 85 |
You can't call it "fishing" if the fish are dead and gone.
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